WARNING: Pointless blog entry. Do I even need to say that anymore?
A little bit of truth telling: I can like you, and still be jealous of your success.
I have to remind myself of that sometimes, because I’m known to get a little envious. Success itself, of course, is something of a misnomer, because different people define it in diferent ways. For some, success
is writing a book that wins perfect reviews. For others, it’s writing a book that wins prestigious (and perhaps not so prestigious) awards. For yet others, it’s all about the sales. And for some, it’s a matter of all three. It depends on your goals, your notion of success, and how fragile your ego is. (And writers, by and large, are a lot famously known for their fragile egos, and/or their pathetic self-esteem. Count me in that latter group.)
Indie authors support one another. We offer peer reviews, we offer ourselves as beta readers, we vote for each other’s books, we applaud when someone writes 3,000 words in one sitting and publishes their eighth book. We give praise to other writers when they win awards, when they get a 5 star review, and when they break the top 1,000 in Kindle sales.
And well we should. It’s how we build community: by offering support, because at some point we’re going to expect some in return. We purchase other Indie books, somehow expecting that favor to be reciprocated. We offer words of encouragement, in part because we really care (we’re all human, after all, and I’ve developed many true friendships with other members of the online Indie author community), and in part because we want those words to be there the next time that we need them, because, face it, we all need it from time to time.
I believe in community, in helping others, and in building a support base that is useful both to myself and others. I see nothing wrong with admitting that. It’s like the notion of helping others selflessly. Do we ever, really help other selflessly? I mean really? No. Helping others likely gives us some sense of personal satisfaction, either from knowing that we are a good and selfless person or that somebody will be better off because of something we did to help them. We may not be asking for a reward or even for recognition, but we’re still, ultimately, getting something out of it. So, then, are we really acting selflessly?
The same goes in the Indie author community. If I promote your book, chances are better than not that I want you to promote my book, too. Fair is fair, right? And yet even though there are quite a few Indie authors whose books I promote in plain site who could care less about returning the favor, I do it anyways, even though I know they’ll never getting around to noticing or caring that I do so. Why? Maybe I get a sense of personal satisfaction knowing I’m doing something they’re not. Maybe I wonder if there isn’t someone doing the same for me, only I don’t notice them. Maybe I’m just stupid.
Writers are human beings. We want to be noticed (often in spite of ourselves), and we want success, even though most of us are actually afraid of it. That’s why I’ll admit this here and now: if you’re finding success as an Indie author in ways that I’m not, chances are I’ll be jealous. I may resent you. I may even decide I don’t like you, just a little, and just for a little while. It’s nothing personal. I really do want you to succeed. I don’t offer empty praise, and I won’t buy your Indie book even if you buy mine unless I think it looks good. I’m supportive, but I have my limits, and I hope you do, too. If I offer your book a good review, if I say congratulations, if I vote for you on some awards website, it means I really DID like your book, I really MEAN congratulations, and I really DO think you deserve that reward. I don’t make empty gestures. I’m sincere, even in the way I support you and our Indie authors community.
And that means I can admit this: sometimes, I get a little jealous. And just because I get jealous doesn’t mean I don’t want your Indie book to do well. I WANT it to do well.
I just want mine to do well, too.








This is very very well said. I don’t think there is any true pure selflessness, because doing something in part because it satisfies something inside of you isn’t true selflessness. You’re getting something out of it.
I think most of us feel the way you do. I say that because I do, and I have no problems whitewashing everyone else with my own brush because it’s really easy and convenient to do. Since you feel that way, then I get the feeling like I’m right about it too. I get jealous as all hell. I still support everyone in the community and want them to do well in the hopes that Karma will notice me and reward me with a metaphorical pat on the head. Or a few sales. Sitting pat as the #134,879 best-selling Kindle book doesn’t have too many rewards in and of itself, as far as I can tell.
So in a nutshell: Yes. This is right.
I could have easily written this myself, because it all hits home for me. Right now I have nothing finished to share with the word, and am struggling with my writer identity. There are days when I have to ignore Twitter, because I’m jealous that people *have* things to promote, and watching everyone talk about great word counts makes me want to throw up. Envy is my biggest, baddest inner demon. And usually he wins. I don’t think that will ever stop.
But I do my best to help my friends. I will write reviews, promote websites, and cheer everyone on. And like you every single thing I do is sincere. I do it because I want everyone to do well, because I know we are all in it together. Do I expect them to do it for me when the time comes? No, because I know not everyone will. Would it be nice if they did? Hell yes. But I know that most of that is going to have to come from me first.
Thanks for saying what I think a lot of us feel, and doing it really well.
LOl, selfless. Hahahahaha–no such thing, ever, in my opinion.
I’ve written before that we are all competitors and that there is nothing wrong with that. There is room for all of our books on the real and virtual shelves, but that doesn’t mean we have to help each other sell. And it doesn’t mean we won’t resent another’s success.
I would completely understand an author who chose NOT to RT anyone else’s book stuff. It’s like Target offering customer’s a Wal-Mart sales paper. You gotta do what you gotta do and put yourself first, there is NOTHING wrong with that.
Thanks everyone for the comments!
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with promoting others. The weird thing is, I really DO want others to succeed, because (and here’s where that strange self-serving dichotomy comes into play) when I’m promoting an Indie author, I’m not just promoting *them*, but I’m promoting *Indie authors*, period. Strangely, promoting both MIGHT help me in the end, if one chooses to look at it that way: the first because that individual may someday return the favor, the latter because (at least ostensibly) if the collective of Indie authors does well, so do I.
Make sense? Didn’t think so…
Very true. I know its disheartening when you RT others books and not returned. I want you to succeed! I want you famous too! Doing other Indie Writers harm is very bad Karma. I support all the Indie writers I follow. I also stop following those who do say nasty things about mine and others hard work. I have read many, some very good, some just OK. As my Grandmother always said if you cant say anything nice Shut up. Oh and, if I love a book or short story I blog about it and praise the writers work. Yes, its easy to get jealous but I always stop and think how long and how hard did that writer work?
I hope we both and our friends all get famous. So to others reading this go buy Blood Skies, go now.
=D Thank you, Kitty, your words and support are always appreciated.
It is easy to get wrapped up in our own little worlds. I try my best to lend support to my fellow authors, but it can be reaaaaaaaal easy to lose sight of what’s important.
What that is, of course, is entirely dependent upon you.
I read a handful of forum posts regarding Karen Marie Moning’s final Fever book that made me completely jealous. They weren’t about her sales, success or anything along those lines. The ladies creating the posts were so excited to read her final book they took the day off of work, made meals in advance for their families, planned to lock themselves up in a room until the story was done being read.
UGH – I’d give anything to have readers lust after my fiction that much!
Do I wish that Ms. Moning fail on her next series attempt? No. In a way it makes me try harder.
Great post.
~ Jenna
Interesting ideas. While I’m not about to argue with good Karma, I’m wondering……
First let me say; still in the editing process of my WIP, I know my story is good,real good and I know the plot is working, but am I good enough to tell this particular story. If I self publish and even if it really catches fire and all of you are helpful and promoting the hell out of me ,is that enough. Can I keep getting better,if nobody tells me what didn’t work for them? Can I hear it? Can I take it? Can I let it make me better? stronger? more proficient at my craft? Do I want to be better, stronger, more proficient, etc.?
Just doing it is a tremendous success. I’m real proud that I have completed an 85,000 word piece of fiction and sincerely hoping that it is not and 85,000 word piece of shit. Are the $$$ enough, or is that just my friends and other indie authors willing to give me a buck to buy some “good karma”.
Just some random thoughts from another self-absorbed, self-deprecating completely insecure word junkie.
Thank you both for your comments!
@ Jenna. I hope my work is that loved someday. I believe some already do, and that makes me nervous as hell, because now I have pressure…what if I can’t keep delivering?
@ Barbara. “another self-absorbed, self-deprecating completely insecure word junkie.” WE ARE LEGION! =D
Well said!
I know I did a blog the other day about authors supporting and encouraging by others, and I meant what I said – it is wonderful to see that happening! But I think you were better able to explain the essence of it in this post though.
There is nothing wrong with feeling that competitive edge. There’s nothing from with having that twinge of jealousy or resentment either. We are after all just human. But I think the point is, that we tend to work through those emotions and still do the right thing. Even if it is only to make sure we keep our good karma!
I feel the same as you – I will only tell you I like it or I’m interested, if its the truth. I won’t read things I’m not interested in, or things that don’t grab my attention just to do a review so that I can get one in return. Not gonna happen. I feel like authors bust their butts to write their books and get them out there for the world to see. I’m not going to provide a shallow, empty review that I don’t really mean. Its not fair to the readers or the author. I just hope I get the same respect for truth in return – which is all I can ask for right?
I was told once that my insecurity about my writing and my self-deprecating would hold me back and that would be why I don’t succeed. They went on to tell others that I had decided not to write anymore, and that I just couldn’t do it any longer due to my personal obligations. Well, that was just more motivation for me to do it. It may take some time, but I will finish this. And it will get published – one way or another. For me, that will be my little bit of success!
Well said, Jennifer!
I really enjoyed the post you made the other day. If others haven’t already, go and check it out: http://www.small-escapes.com/?p=209
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I would be happy to promote your book and yes my wife is also an indie author.
I have posted on this before and I simply left it at readers will always want more than one book in one lifetime.